[TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON THE FRANCISCANINTELLECTUALTRADITION7 - 15...

[Richard Martin]

Further to my email just now: try this one for starters, but no doubt people know better ones.....

http://www.wtu.edu/franciscan/packs/tour/index.html

If a local group held a meeting at an internet-connected member's house, they could all view this together, and anyone who has been could fill in with their memories.

Richard.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Valerie Povey 
  To: tssf-studies at justus.anglican.org 
  Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON THE FRANCISCANINTELLECTUALTRADITION7 - 15...


  Yes Penelope, I heartily agree. It is all beyond my pocket. Val Povey
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Penelope Fletcher 
    To: tssf-studies at justus.anglican.org 
    Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 3:05 PM
    Subject: Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION7 - 15...


    Part of me would love to go on this

    BUT

    doesn't it seem a bit incongruous to spend so much money studying someone who embraced 'Lady Poverty'?  Yes life is not as it was in Francis' time and cannot be so  but surely there are other ways to study the intellectual tradition?

    For instance a video that could be made and viewed in Areas so that each are could then, if they wished, run a pilgrimage to one of the places mentioned.
    Or one of the franciscan Scholars could be studied in depth.

    Even the General Chapter is beyond some tertiaries - no we are not all wealthy. Is there a danger of 'one -upmanship' here. So many pilgrimages to Asissi -yet again many cannot afford to go and yet sometmes it might be thought to be an essential requirement! (This is not sour grapes I have been to Asissi it was the begining of my interest in Francis)

    It just worries me slightly

    Penelope Fletcher


    Original Message ----- 
      From: GPlumb2000 at aol.com 
      To: tssf-studies at justus.anglican.org 
      Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:39 PM
      Subject: Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION 7 - 15...


      Very splendid - but also very expensive. I would love to be able to go. But how does spending the best part of £1,000 on this fit with Day 12 of the Principles?

      "Personal spending is limited to what is necessary for the health and well-being of us and of our dependents?"

      I think there is a case for a thorough-going discussion of what poverty has meant in the Franciscan tradition and what it might mean today. There has been a great deal written about poverty and the Franciscan tradition in recent years.

      An issue that keeps nagging me is that living simply/espousing voluntary poverty is only an option for those who are comfortably off. What of those for whom voluntary poverty is not an option because they are already grindlngly poor? Is the Franciscan way not open to them? (How far does the socio-economic make up of the TO reflect that of our wider society - and if not why not?


      Gordon Plumb




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