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<DIV><FONT size=2>Further to my email just now: try this one for starters, but
no doubt people know better ones.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><A
href="http://www.wtu.edu/franciscan/packs/tour/index.html">http://www.wtu.edu/franciscan/packs/tour/index.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If a local group held a meeting at an internet-connected
member's house, they could all view this together, and anyone who has been could
fill in with their memories.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Richard.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=valerie.povey@ntlworld.com
href="mailto:valerie.povey@ntlworld.com">Valerie Povey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org
href="mailto:tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org">tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 3:31
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON
THE FRANCISCANINTELLECTUALTRADITION7 - 15...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes Penelope, I heartily agree. It is all beyond
my pocket. Val Povey</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ian.fletcher1@tesco.net
href="mailto:ian.fletcher1@tesco.net">Penelope Fletcher</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org
href="mailto:tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org">tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 3:05
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE
ON THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION7 - 15...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Part of me would love to go on
this</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BUT</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>doesn't it seem a bit incongruous to spend so
much money studying someone who embraced 'Lady Poverty'? Yes life is
not as it was in Francis' time and cannot be so but surely there are
other ways to study the intellectual tradition?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For instance a video that could be made and
viewed in Areas so that each are could then, if they wished, run a
pilgrimage to one of the places mentioned.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Or one of the franciscan Scholars could be
studied in depth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Even the General Chapter is beyond some
tertiaries - no we are not all wealthy. Is there a danger of 'one
-upmanship' here. So many pilgrimages to Asissi -yet again many cannot
afford to go and yet sometmes it might be thought to be an essential
requirement! (This is not sour grapes I have been to Asissi it was the
begining of my interest in Francis)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It just worries me slightly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Penelope Fletcher</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=GPlumb2000@aol.com
href="mailto:GPlumb2000@aol.com">GPlumb2000@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org
href="mailto:tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org">tssf-studies@justus.anglican.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TSSF-studies]
PILGRIMAGE ON THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION 7 - 15...</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">Very splendid - but also very expensive. I
would love to be able to go. But how does spending the best part of £1,000
on this fit with Day 12 of the Principles?<BR><BR>"Personal spending is
limited to what is necessary for the health and well-being of us and of
our dependents?"<BR><BR>I think there is a case for a thorough-going
discussion of what poverty has meant in the Franciscan tradition and what
it might mean today. There has been a great deal written about poverty and
the Franciscan tradition in recent years.<BR><BR>An issue that keeps
nagging me is that living simply/espousing voluntary poverty is only an
option for those who are comfortably off. What of those for whom voluntary
poverty is not an option because they are already grindlngly poor? Is the
Franciscan way not open to them? (How far does the socio-economic make up
of the TO reflect that of our wider society - and if not why
not?<BR><BR><BR>Gordon Plumb<BR><BR></FONT>
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