[TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION 7 - 15...

[Averil Swanton]

A very good question.

For me non-voluntary poverty is not an option and other Principles, Day 7 &
8, will nudge us in the direction of justice, without which there is no true
peace. Perhaps TSSF will only appeal to those who see that materialism is
not all that it is cracked up to be and to reach that point one has to have
material comfort. There is a well-known theory in management circles that
unless and until physical needs are met , there is no chance of meeting
mental or spiritual needs.

I wrestle with this on a regular basis.

Pax & Bonum

Averil Swanton
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INTELLECTUALTRADITION 7 - 15...

Very splendid - but also very expensive. I would love to be able to go. But
how does spending the best part of £1,000 on this fit with Day 12 of the
Principles?

"Personal spending is limited to what is necessary for the health and
well-being of us and of our dependents?"

I think there is a case for a thorough-going discussion of what poverty has
meant in the Franciscan tradition and what it might mean today. There has
been a great deal written about poverty and the Franciscan tradition in
recent years.

An issue that keeps nagging me is that living simply/espousing voluntary
poverty is only an option for those who are comfortably off. What of those
for whom voluntary poverty is not an option because they are already
grindlngly poor? Is the Franciscan way not open to them? (How far does the
socio-economic make up of the TO reflect that of our wider society - and if
not why not?


Gordon Plumb
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