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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes Penelope, I heartily agree. It is all beyond my
pocket. Val Povey</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ian.fletcher1@tesco.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 13, 2006 3:05
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE ON
THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION7 - 15...</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Part of me would love to go on this</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>BUT</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>doesn't it seem a bit incongruous to spend so
much money studying someone who embraced 'Lady Poverty'? Yes life is not
as it was in Francis' time and cannot be so but surely there are other
ways to study the intellectual tradition?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>For instance a video that could be made and
viewed in Areas so that each are could then, if they wished, run a pilgrimage
to one of the places mentioned.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Or one of the franciscan Scholars could be
studied in depth.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Even the General Chapter is beyond some
tertiaries - no we are not all wealthy. Is there a danger of 'one -upmanship'
here. So many pilgrimages to Asissi -yet again many cannot afford to go and
yet sometmes it might be thought to be an essential requirement! (This is not
sour grapes I have been to Asissi it was the begining of my interest in
Francis)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It just worries me slightly</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Penelope Fletcher</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [TSSF-studies] PILGRIMAGE
ON THE FRANCISCAN INTELLECTUALTRADITION 7 - 15...</DIV>
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PTSIZE="10" FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Very splendid - but also very expensive. I
would love to be able to go. But how does spending the best part of £1,000
on this fit with Day 12 of the Principles?<BR><BR>"Personal spending is
limited to what is necessary for the health and well-being of us and of our
dependents?"<BR><BR>I think there is a case for a thorough-going discussion
of what poverty has meant in the Franciscan tradition and what it might mean
today. There has been a great deal written about poverty and the Franciscan
tradition in recent years.<BR><BR>An issue that keeps nagging me is that
living simply/espousing voluntary poverty is only an option for those who
are comfortably off. What of those for whom voluntary poverty is not an
option because they are already grindlngly poor? Is the Franciscan way not
open to them? (How far does the socio-economic make up of the TO reflect
that of our wider society - and if not why not?<BR><BR><BR>Gordon
Plumb<BR><BR></FONT>
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