<div dir="ltr">I found it in my spam folder. Anyone who didn't get it the first time might want to look there. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Virginia Brown <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mothervirginiadb@gmail.com" target="_blank">mothervirginiadb@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear Companions,<br><br></div>I spoke with Cathy a little while ago and learned that she attempted to send out this email to the Professed list, and while some received it, some apparently did not. As she suggested, I'll try sending it again and we'll see if it works. Cathy raises some significant issues which I think have been on several minds in various forms, so please do read it and join in the conversation.<br>
<br></div>Love,<br></div>V<br><div><div><br>On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 8:13 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:susanna601@aol.com" target="_blank">susanna601@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font style="background-color:transparent" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I voted YES - but I have some different questions that were not clear in my mind, and which I posed to Susie.</font></div>
<div><font style="background-color:transparent" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Susie and I have discussed this. V and I have talked briefly as well.</font></div>
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<div><font style="background-color:transparent" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">But Susie
said that she did not receive this when I sent it to all the
professed, so I have corrected the figures and am sending it again.</font></div>
<div><font style="background-color:transparent" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></div>
<div>Please, let's discuss this as unemotionally as possible - and on
this list. This is NOT a concern that the novices and postulants need to
be engaged in at this point...</div>
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<div>We now owe ourselves $80,000.....That nearly empties the
"development fund" that Virginia set up for Rivendell when she received a
large chunk of money from her Aunt's estate. That just means we have
spent nearly all of the $100,000 she gave to the Community after her
Aunt's death, and it means there is no more to be had - so we need to
husband whatever resources we still have carefully.</div>
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<div>My concern was/is simply this: How do we repay ourselves without increased, steady income? </div>
<div>Our monthly repayment is now not just the $365 Susie mentions, but
with the other loans, the total repayment is close to $1,500/mo. </div>
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<div>
<div><font style="background-color:transparent" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The financial aspect of this is essential to consider, since Virginia is also looking to move to Houston and her <i>retirement income will need to go with her</i>
to finance a small apartment. She needs the quiet and privacy of her
own space. She has already researched cost of living there. She and I
talked briefly about this yesterday.</font> Her income will NOT remain in Dunnegan when she moves.</div>
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<div>Once we take Virgina's income out of the equation, is there enough<b> regular</b>
income from Susie's retirement, from retreats, from Companions, to pay
this amount AND keep up the other expenses of the house? (We have, of
course, lost also the Diocesan support for room/board and Virgina's
leadership of George Herbert) </div>
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<div>There will be $15,000 left in the "development fund" and
approximately $6,000 left in the savings account (Susie couldn't
remember exactly how much, and I don't know) - Is that enough
reserve in case of emergency?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am still concerned about the long-term financial viability
of Rivendell (the house) without a real plan for its long-term use and
income. I know we have dreams and ideas, but that is not quite the same
as a plan.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Again, please, <b>I am not attacking Susie, who is my friend; I am
not denying the need for a tractor. I am not "siding with" anyone or
against anyone. </b></div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am asking questions we need to be <i>able to discuss</i> without
just saying to Susie, "whatever you want is fine" - because that puts a
huge burden on her to make all the right choices when she is not sure
what Virginia thinks or, for that matter, what God intends - </div>
<div>OR to say to V, "whatever you say is fine" - which puts an
identical burden on her to speak up when she is unsure, but reluctant
to disagree - and is herself unsure about God's purposes in all this -
and when the two of them do not see quite eye-to-eye it leaves them both
struggling to decide how to proceed - </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Everyone needs to engage in this conversation, because it affects
all of us - The question of planning, actual, hard planning for our
future in Dunnegan HAS TO HAPPEN, and preferably first among us.</div>
<div>The consensus at Chapter was that we should keep the property and
there is now a consensus that we should incur more "debt" or spend most
of our remaining resources - whichever way you want to put it - </div>
<div> </div>
<div>But it is not fair to leave all the details about how this ACTUALLY
works out to Susie and Virginia alone just because for the moment they
are the only ones who live there and it is easier to dump the whole
thing in their laps.</div>
<div>And no, I do NOT have any answers, either. But that does not obviate the need we <i>all</i> have to have a serious conversation about this - </div>
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<div> -----Original Message-----<br>
From: susanna601 <<a href="mailto:susanna601@aol.com" target="_blank">susanna601@aol.com</a>><br>
To: RivCompanions <<a href="mailto:RivCompanions@justus.anglican.org" target="_blank">RivCompanions@justus.anglican.org</a>><br>
Sent: Tue, Jun 24, 2014 8:49 am<br>
Subject: Re: [RivCompanions] Vote needed<br>
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<div><b>I vote yes, but I do want to be clear about the internal loan status -</b> </div>
<div>This is my understanding from what Susie wrote: When we buy the
tractor, our debt (to ourselves) will be approximately
$80,000. We will have approximately $15,000 left in the development fund which will only slowly recover. That leaves us no financial wiggle-room should something else come up.</div>
<div>What I do<i> not</i> see is the <i>total </i>amount of the MONTHLY loan repayment, for all three loans.</div>
<div>I'd like to be reassured that whatever it is, that the monthly total will not exceed what we can comfortably re-pay ourselves.</div>
<div>Cathy</div></font></div></div></font></blockquote><br></div></div></div>
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