From audivia2002 at yahoo.fr Fri Jul 10 09:32:24 2009 From: audivia2002 at yahoo.fr (Bishop Venuste Mutiganda) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:32:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Francophones] =?utf-8?q?Je_fais_suivre_cet_article_tel_qu=27il_e?= =?utf-8?q?st_publi=C3=A9_par_le_quotidien_de_Kigali_=22New_Times=22=2E?= Message-ID: <812810.60519.qm@web23805.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Friday, 10th July 2009 Religious leaders react to draft bill L-R: Mufti saleh Habimana, Bishop Emmanuel Kolini BY EUGENE MUTARA The draft bill governing religions that was tabled before parliament?s political affairs committee last month has been described as ?delicate? by the several religious leaders. The bill that was drafted by the Ministry of Local Government contained articles that the leaders of different religious denomination contested saying that it infringes on their freedom of worship. The civic leaders have called for amendments in articles 21, 32, 35, 36 in order to facilitate their operation in the country. In a statement released by the religious leaders, it makes it clear that the contested articles make it difficult to start a religious group and maintain it. The bill states in article 21 that in case one does not have 100 members as required by the draft bill to start a religious denomination, he/she can be authorised by the sector to start gathering for worship until the required number is attained. The same applies to the application requesting for legal personality which can only be done after nine months, article 25 indicates. Another controversial article, 32 clause 4, suggest that a legal representative of a denomination should be with at least a bachelor?s degree which has been also contested. Pastor Joel Sengoga of Devine Destiny Church and Archbishop Emmanuel Kolini of Anglican Church say starting a church does not require someone to be academically qualified but it?s a calling. ?Law makers must have amended the bill basing on weaknesses that befell the church but that is making biased laws, the number does not matter but quality matters a lot, the bible says where 2 or 3 will gather God will be in their midst,? Kolini said in an interview. Rwanda?s Mufti Sheikh Saleh Habimana sees things differently saying there is no problem with the bill because Rwanda needs educated religious leaders to prevent future human debacles. ?It is a disaster to lead people when you are not educated but the only problem with the bill, it does not verify which kind of a degree, but most preferably it should be theology. Even if one has a different degree, one should go for theology,? Habimana said in telephone interview. Recently religious leaders drafted a statement to be presented to the local government ministry and the Speaker of Parliament for possible amendments. Ends -------------- section suivante -------------- Une pièce jointe HTML a été nettoyée... URL: http://justus.anglican.org/pipermail/francophones.justus/attachments/20090710/7f16ffc1/attachment.html From bishop at tec-europe.org Tue Jul 14 14:18:50 2009 From: bishop at tec-europe.org (Bishop) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:18:50 +0200 Subject: [Francophones] =?iso-8859-1?q?un_message_du_pr=E9sident_pour_le_R?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=E9seau_francophone?= Message-ID: <08B9FB5E-1A31-4B94-8666-F73CA9BD8EDE@tec-europe.org> Chers membres du Réseau, Hier soir, ici à Anaheim, Californie, les évêques ont avalisé une proposition, numéro D025-- qui nous est parvenue de la Chambre des députés. La proposition déclare que l'Église Épiscopale est membre constitutif de la Communion anglicane et y tient profondément; que nous allons continuer notre soutien à tous les membres de la Communion, y compris du point de vue financier; et que nous considérons depuis longtemps qu'il est possible que les personnes homosexuelles peuvent trouver une vie en couple. Certains de ces personnes ont été déjà ordonnées. La déclaration se termine en admettant que tout cela n'est pas encore résolu entre nous et dans la Communion, et que l'Église pense que cette discorde est naturelle entre chrétiens penchés sur les Saintes Écritures. Puisque cette proposition est en fait une description de la situation telle qu'elle existe actuellement dans notre église, et ne contient ni une répudiation des moratoires ni une nouvelle théologie, j'ai voté pour. Il faut bien comprendre que les moratoires auxquels nous avons consentis en 2006 et affirmés en 2007 restent en vigueur, comme a déclaré l'Évêque président. Tout de suite certains médias ont prétendu que le vote en faveur de cette proposition est la fin des moratoires. Il n'est pas ainsi. D025 remplace un paquet de propostions qui exigeaient la fin immédiate des moratoires. Il nous reste un gros travail de théologie qui malheureusement n'a pas encore vu le jour. Moi-même j'ai proposé le projet d'étude de cette théologie pour la chambre épiscopale. Un comité de théologiens professionnels "pour et contre" nous dirigera dans ce travail. Nous avons déjà commencé ce travail, qui sera--Deo volente--fini en 2012. C'est après ce travail que nous allons reparler de la fin des moratoires. J'espère que ce courriel vous sera utile. En Christ, Mgr Pierre Whalon Président du Réseau From audivia2002 at yahoo.fr Sat Jul 18 17:02:57 2009 From: audivia2002 at yahoo.fr (Bishop Venuste Mutiganda) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Francophones] Tr : Canterbury in a Corner Message-ID: <810799.37114.qm@web23807.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Au Réseau, Avez-vous des contacts avec ce journal? ----- Message transféré ---- De : Anglican SPREAD À : audivia2002 at yahoo.fr Envoyé le : Samedi, 18 Juillet 2009, 18h12mn 04s Objet : Canterbury in a Corner Canterbury in a Corner I clearly recall being told by the previous Bishop of Worcester, Dr Peter Selby, that I and my congregation had painted ourselves into a corner. Following his public denunciation of Lambeth Resolution 1.10 in 1999 we had felt unable to receive his episcopal ministry and it did not seem to occur to him that there could possibly be an Anglican future independent of his oversight ? a future which the formation of GAFCON and the FCA has now made much more secure. Some ten years on the same theological tensions have led to a momentous week in which TEC has blatantly rejected the Anglican Covenant process and the Archbishop of Canterbury himself is revealed as having painted himself into a corner. TEC?s decision to overturn the moratorium on gay bishops and to push ahead with ?gay marriage? liturgies, not to mention the Presiding Bishop's description of personal salvation as a ?heresy?, coming so soon after the formation of the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) underscores the fact that profound underlying differences within the Anglican Communion are now institutionally embodied in North America. Once ideas take on institutional expression, it is much more difficult to sidestep them. Since becoming Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams has desperately tried to avoid coming to a point of closure, but there is now a general recognition that he must now act decisively if he is not to be overtaken by events since the fault line in North America runs through the whole of Western liberal Anglicanism, not least in England itself. The reality of this fault line has been somewhat obscured by the existence of those who identify themselves as ?centrists? such as Fulcrum in England, who have tried to hold together the institutional status quo and doctrinal orthodoxy. As Anglican Churches on both sides of the Atlantic have, in their different ways, come progressively under the sway of secular liberalism, this synthesis has become increasingly unconvincing and this week Fulcrum bishops Tom Wright and Graham Kings have finally acknowledged that TEC has effectively put itself out of the Communion. This will increase pressure on Rowan Williams to take a similar line with TEC and, as a corollary, recognise the ACNA, but it will be very difficult for Williams to do so because it presents him with a personal dilemma in a way which it does not for Wright and Kings. Kendall Harmon Kendall Harmon notes that in the debate on D025, the resolution affirming the right of those in same sex relationships to be ordained within TEC, ?speakers insisted ?This is who we are!??. Dr Williams? problem is that he is not being ?who he is?. Having protested shortly before his appointment to Canterbury about the need to ?come clean? and accept practicing homosexuals for ordination , it is hardly surprising that TEC?s General Convention humiliated him by ignoring his personal plea for restraint. He was asking them not act on the very teaching which his writings and public statements did so much to legitimize for over twenty years. Although in a corner, there is a tactical way out . Rowan Williams is a resourceful dialectician, on paper and in practice. So it would be unsurprising if he were to bend to orthodox pressure and at least put the wheels in motion for a process to recognise the ACNA, thus regaining the initiative and gaining goodwill from the orthodox, while continuing to recognise TEC. Superficially, this would look like a win for the ACNA, but there would be a price. It would be a step back into the murky world of Lambeth politics, so thoroughly discredited at the last Anglican Consultative Council in Jamaica, and interminable TEC funded ?indaba? which only serves to give plausibility to those with whom the orthodox should not be in fellowship. It would be tragic if those who have made such a costly stand were to relativise and undercut their position in this way. The point becomes clearer when we think of the impact in England, which must now be Rowan Williams? main concern. If both TEC and the ACNA have official recognition by the Archbishop of Canterbury, then it lends plausibility to those who would set back reform by arguing that both ?extremes? have their place in an Anglican mixed economy which may one day settle down into a new synthesis. The attraction of such an argument should not be underestimated given the English tendency to compromise and the particular pressures to cultural conformity which come with the Church of England?s establishment privileges. Archbishop Peter Jensen, speaking of the GAFCON Jerusalem Declaration, reminded delegates at this month?s launch of the FCA in Britain and Ireland that ?the mark of a Christian statement, a statement which professes the true faith, is that it also says ?No!??. Its affirmatives take strength from its negations.? A real ?yes? to the ACNA must therefore also involve a clear ?no? to TEC (and of course the similarly minded Anglican Church of Canada) and with the present Archbishop of Canterbury this possibility must be considered as belonging to the realm of the miraculous rather than the probable. So if Canterbury is in a corner, what is the way forward for the Communion in general and the Church of England in particular? At its most essential, it is to gather around the Jerusalem Declaration as a contemporary statement of authentic biblical Anglicanism which gives a confessional rather than institutional focus of unity. Canterbury may be painted into a corner, but the Anglican Communion is not. The Bishop of Worcester was not essential to our Anglican future; the Archbishop of Canterbury is not essential to the Communion?s Anglican future. Charles Raven 18th July 2009 If you would like to subscribe to this free SPREAD newsletter then click here. >Registered charity: The Forerunner Trust (2006) No. 1115901 link name ©2009 Anglican SPREAD | Paddington House, New Road, Kidderminster, DY10 1AL, UK This email was sent to audivia2002 at yahoo.fr. To ensure that you continue receiving our emails, please add us to your address book or safe list. View this email on the web here. You can also forward to a friend. Unsubscribe Powered by Mad Mimi® -------------- section suivante -------------- Une pièce jointe HTML a été nettoyée... URL: http://justus.anglican.org/pipermail/francophones.justus/attachments/20090718/1c30fd40/attachment-0001.html From drbossiere at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 01:35:57 2009 From: drbossiere at gmail.com (Jacques Bossiere) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:35:57 -0700 Subject: [Francophones] To the wordwide francophone network Message-ID: <9ee4993b0907221835s211059bbmf82441371bdc9ef6@mail.gmail.com> L'avenir de la Communion Anglicane nous concerne tous et l'heure de verite semble approcher:c'est pourquoi notre cher eveque-president vient de prendre position 1)en votant en faveur de la proposition DO25 2)en tentant de justifier sa position devant le Reseau Francophone. Ceci m'autorise a repondre,et je tiens en ma qualite de fondateur et de premier president de ce qui devint le Reseau a notre premiere assemblee mondiale a Limuru,Kenya en 1996. je suis en desaccord profond avec les positions reaffirmees par DO25,et ceci depuis de nombreuses annees.J'ai vecu dans l'espoir d'une reconciliation lors des deux Conferences de Lambeth auxquelles j'ai assiste.Ce n'est que recemment qu'une assemblee de taille mondiale s'est reunie a Jerusalem,[GAFCON] ouvrant la voie a ACNA qui est,me semble-t-il, le rassemblement le plus important des defenseurs de nos traditions anglicanes>C'est mon voeu de rejoindre ce groupe des que ce sera canoniquement possible. J'ai note avec joie que beaucoup parmi vous avez su reagir avec une energie et fraicheur qui rappelle les tout premiers pas du christianisme A vous tous qui restez tres chers a mon coeur mes voeux et une affection que mon age rend quasi paternelle. JACQUES BOSSIERE From bppwhalon at aol.com Thu Jul 23 19:28:12 2009 From: bppwhalon at aol.com (Pierre Whalon) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:28:12 -0400 Subject: [Francophones] To the wordwide francophone network In-Reply-To: <9ee4993b0907221835s211059bbmf82441371bdc9ef6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ee4993b0907221835s211059bbmf82441371bdc9ef6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3F4FEAE8-DE50-439B-9E55-DBBF5DECAF06@aol.com> Cher Jacques, Je vous remercie pour votre courriel. Pourtant je regrette que vous n;ayez pas pensé à me contacter avant d'envoyer votre mot. Toutefois, il faut bien noter que cette fameuse proposition D025 affirme aussi le désaccord au sein de notre Église Épiscopale. Autrement je n'aurais pas pu voter pour. Je vous signale également que la lettre envoyée par l?Évêque président à l?Archevêque de Cantorbéry et les autres primats est en ligne avec ce que j?ai dit aux membres du Réseau auparavent. J'ai également signé la Déclaration de Anaheim, qui affirme que les signataires continuent en communion avec le reste de la Communion, et continuent aussi dans les processus de Lambeth (Windsor) et du Pacte (Covenant). Il restera au jugement du Seigneur si la ACNA aura une vie à elle. Rappelons-nous du mot de Gamaliel... En Christ, +Pierre Le 22 juil. 09 à 21:35, Jacques Bossiere a écrit : > L'avenir de la Communion Anglicane nous concerne tous et l'heure de > verite semble approcher:c'est pourquoi notre cher eveque-president > vient de prendre position 1)en votant en faveur de la proposition DO25 > 2)en tentant de justifier sa position devant le Reseau Francophone. > Ceci m'autorise a repondre,et je tiens en ma qualite de fondateur et > de premier president de ce qui devint le Reseau a notre premiere > assemblee mondiale a Limuru,Kenya en 1996. > > je suis en desaccord profond avec les positions reaffirmees par > DO25,et ceci depuis de nombreuses annees.J'ai vecu dans l'espoir d'une > reconciliation lors des deux Conferences de Lambeth auxquelles j'ai > assiste.Ce n'est que recemment qu'une assemblee de taille mondiale > s'est reunie a Jerusalem,[GAFCON] ouvrant la voie a ACNA qui est,me > semble-t-il, le rassemblement le plus important des defenseurs de nos > traditions anglicanes>C'est mon voeu de rejoindre ce groupe des que ce > sera canoniquement possible. > > J'ai note avec joie que beaucoup parmi vous avez su reagir avec une > energie et fraicheur qui rappelle les tout premiers pas du > christianisme > A vous tous qui restez tres chers a mon coeur mes voeux et une > affection que mon age rend quasi paternelle. > > JACQUES > BOSSIERE > _______________________________________________ > Francophones mailing list > Francophones at justus.anglican.org > http://justus.anglican.org/mailman/listinfo/francophones.justus Bishop (Mgr) Pierre Whalon Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe 23, avenue George V 75008 Paris France +33 1 53 23 84 06 (tel) +33 1 49 52 96 85 (fax) office at tec-europe.org The Rt. Rev. Pierre W. Whalon, D.D. Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe 23 avenue George V 75008 Paris France +33 1 53 23 84 06 (tel) +33 1 49 52 96 85 (fax) office at tec-europe.org